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Post by Clone on Apr 14, 2011 2:44:59 GMT -5
it is important to notice the difference in assimilation that the two company's underwent. when the developers of C&C became apart of EA they had a lot taken away form them as apposed to DICE and Bioware were allowed to retain there identity's entirely. Bioware works as a separate entity, they ask for money they get it, other than that they don't follow EA's word like most other EA developers. EA wanted The Old Republic to run on Counsels. Bioware said nope. (C&C's downfall was when it made counsels its focus)
out side of some parcty reboots (MOH) and a few money mongering changes to there free to play games, they really are not all evil like some developers (Lucas Arts, Ubisoft, Microsoft Games Studio). they enjoy one of the biggest profit margins of all publishers an because of that they can just toss money at the studios and let them do as they pleas knowing that they will get a good product. (its all that they do with DICE and Bioware at least)
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Apr 14, 2011 15:07:29 GMT -5
C&C's downfall is not only on the console they try to focus, the other is its high and well known fame, they take advantage of it in order to make quick cash, and then it became a huge disaster after they test an experimenting gaming system which they name it C&C4. Wish they should have tested it as a game with a brand new and original title, but when they use the famous name, it just squeezes more blood out of the franchise. And the worse part is, they send in a brand new team to recreate the franchise, I'm not sure if they're seriously making a reboot (which now most of the development are behind closed doors) but honestly, I prefer to nail the franchise in its coffin rather than continue to extract blood out of it. That is just like being as a prisoner sentenced to death, I rather die immediately in an hour rather than suffer continuous torture everyday. So you're saying that Bioware & DICE are the good guys. But the rest, and wait, even LucasArt is evil too? Like just for the money and all about DRM and stuff too? Oh dear.
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Post by Clone on Apr 14, 2011 16:53:58 GMT -5
have you even see what atrocity's they have been trying to get us star wars fans to buy? there so parcty they shouldn't be released! (and i feel so robed by them form the two games i trusted them on). Microsoft Games Studio has completely forgone the computer gaming industry that it created in favor of the 360. Ubisofts just never made anything that went past good and constantly botches things that should of and could of been great. plus they have the worst DRM of the industry. now, not saying that DICE and Bioware are heroes, but so far there one of the few studios that haven't gone corrupt.
i completely agree about just silencing a franchise before it flounders to death. its much nicer to remember a great franchise than one that had a disastrous ending.
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Apr 15, 2011 2:37:33 GMT -5
Woo, looks like the greed of the companies are now what they are doing and thus making qualities turn rotten. The 90s time are always the best though. So far, I never read a lot of their news other than Ubisoft's DRM schemes and EA's bad reputations.
And well, C&C4 ended with a whimper, but EA decide to reboot it instead of nailing it. I wish they could have build a brand new RTS franchise that is similar to C&C BUT with a different name, in this way, people knows that starting anew is a lot better than taking an existing humiliated franchise and only see it getting tortured again.
So far, not much to discuss though, it's sad to see what's happening to your Star Wars game.
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Post by Clone on Apr 15, 2011 15:02:32 GMT -5
um, whats happening to my star wars game that's sad? (out side of what Lucas Arts produces now)
The Old Republic even if it doesn't live up to its expectations will still be the best Star Wars game sense Republic Commando! (now they just need to launch the open beta or at least a larger closed that ways i can start seeing what level of quality this game will be)
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Apr 15, 2011 15:16:46 GMT -5
Like you said, with Lucas Art think of putting in DRM and also didn't bring out the beta, that's sad to see that happening. Maybe did they draw their funds to invest more into "The Clone Wars" era or either the 3D cartoon series alone. According to many case researchers, game companies should invest more time and money creating more DLC contents for existing games rather than further protecting them, after all, piracy cannot be stopped, no matter how they tried. Even Steam's latest protections still are all cracked open!
Let's not forget, the Lego Star Wars 3 only covers the first 2 seasons, there's still 2 more to go (Season 3 & the ready-to-release-in-Fall Season 4), so if I were you, I have my doubts whether if this project would to continue or would it be nailed completely.
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Post by Clone on Apr 15, 2011 19:35:09 GMT -5
Lucas Arts produces crappy games, they are not the DRM ass hols like Ubisoft. a lot of studios are starting to notice that DRM makes no difference on the number of people torrenting their games. however DRM's still a bit of a problem form some studios.
numbers have proven that a good set of well times DLC will produce more profit than a new game. and lets be honest, who doesn't like a good excuse to revisit a great game?
seems like your running off topic some which out a dedicated statement as of to what. The Old Republics in no way goign to get canceled, and nor dose it use DRM. the only thing that's on the disappointing part currently is that theres not been any large beta test yet. but even with that its not like they have a dedicated launch date either.
im rather glad that Lucas Arts left the development process of The Old Republic, now i don't need to worry about them ****ing up another MMO like they did to Star Wars Galaxies!
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Apr 16, 2011 1:55:27 GMT -5
Wow, some studios still do whatever it takes to protect their games, pathetic and face palm, they're just wasting their time and money to do so. The only thing that cracked games will not run is the achievements, that's pretty much of it though. I have another game called "Risk : Factions", it was a console-only game, but it came out on PC last month, so it's also crack, achievements? Forget about them, what do you expect when the game is cracked.
And of course, more profits from DLCs will always be the choice since I'm sure it's fun for the developers and also for us too. DRMs are only for developers who want to take revenge against us and that's not cool, crackers will always be there to take care of the job.
Anyway, off topic as it is, well, this forum is already too dead and with little activity, we're the only ones left though. So far, I'll still be looking forward to more post-Episode 3 related games. Force Unleashed is nice, but I decide to skip them instead.
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Post by Clone on Apr 16, 2011 22:21:43 GMT -5
ya it is sad the decay of the user base. we weren't doing to bad for the past year but then it just died. Italian will be back once hes done doing his intern in Britten.
before The Force Unleashed 2 came out i would of called you a bit stupid for bypassing that game. it was tones of fun and look gorgeous. however TFU2 changed my opinion and now i applaud your opinion to skip it.
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Apr 17, 2011 2:43:40 GMT -5
I understand that it was foolish to skip a great game, however, my mother told me not to get addicted to buy too many games if you remember. Even other great games like Mass Effect & Crysis are to be skipped for me too.
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Post by Clone on Apr 17, 2011 11:00:22 GMT -5
really? didn't think those titles would be on your skip list. (i adore Crysis 1 and am going to play threw Mass Effect 1&2 in a month) those two are some of the highest rated games of the last decade!
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Apr 17, 2011 11:03:06 GMT -5
Remember the last time when you told me to play TFU1? I said thanks but no thanks. Same case for the other great games too, I don't wanna be very addicted to too many games and not to mention clogging up my hard disk spaces, both my laptop's and external's.
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Post by Clone on Apr 18, 2011 3:19:47 GMT -5
*points at portal* why skip a game that was for free and only spent 5 hours of your life and is the greatest puzzle game of this decade? (i'm wandering what your reasoning is)
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Apr 18, 2011 15:58:45 GMT -5
When it comes to puzzle games, I'm usually more towards Rube Goldberg, remember the old Sierra's "The Incredible Machine" series? Too bad that the series was already ended.
And again, no point inviting me to play a good game and I get to choose which one I want to play. I do not want to over-addict myself with them, I still have a life outside to socialize with friends. Computer games are not my friends, they're just passing times.
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Post by Clone on Apr 18, 2011 22:33:12 GMT -5
nearly forgot about that series. i know your reasoning for keeping away form long games, but Portal's stupid short. not to mention having finished it you will understand a hole slew of of references and hints that your probably missing now.
i get your reasoning its just that those reasoning's are not even applicable to Portal.
in other news, The Old Republic has opened up a larger testing group that's allowed to actually let everyone know there testing.
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