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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Apr 14, 2011 15:18:16 GMT -5
With the Battlefield series is already rising up again, I wonder will it be better than Call of Duty or even last year's MoH 2010, what are your opinions? And since the single-player is still intact, I hope they also have missions just like MoH & CoD have. Because I don't like playing "Capture the Flag" style like Battlefield 2 did, that one already bores long enough. I used to be ok and love to play that mode when I was younger, but today I'm no longer into that. So I have my concerns. For the veterans of the series, especially those played the Bad Company series, do they have missions? Or are they still retaining the classic Capture the Flag mode? Let's just hope they still keep the promise to release it for a PC version too, I cannot forget their infamous act on Bad Company 1 for releasing only for consoles, a very bad mistake which angers PC gamers and myself. PS : That really gives me some curiosity, let's take Bad Company 2, since it was released in multiple platform, which side gained the most sales? PC? Xbox 360 or PS3? I hope it's PC, but if I'm wrong, well, like myself would say, haters (anti-console or very restrict towards PC gaming) are gonna hate!
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Post by Clone on Apr 14, 2011 15:40:48 GMT -5
BBC followed the newer approach to using linear game play mixed with non linear environments. (more than one path but still a path) DICE has announced that B3 will include a full feature length campaign but also retain the large massive sprawls for territory and glory as whats normal of the Battlefield games. the counsel versions will be limited, they will be graphically inferior along with numerous things such as smaller maps and halved team sizes for the PS3 version and 1/4th regular team size for the 360's. (regulars 64)
speaking of PC benefits, the game engine (frostbite 2) is being built form the ground up in DX11 and will not feature a DC10 or 9 version (a lot of legacy over head can be taken out and thus run faster). this is greatly beneficiary for gamers as DX11 is dramatically faster than DX9 and 10. form the looks of it this games going to finally replace Crysis as a visual benchmark. (sad that Crysis 2 was parc compared to Crysis 1)
sails figures, the 360 edition of BBC2 sold the best followed by the PC and PS3.
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Apr 15, 2011 2:45:33 GMT -5
First, the sales figure, I'm not saying only BBC2, I'm also talking about the other titles as well, does the console version (or just Xbox360 alone) sell more than the PC version?
And also, luckily you remember I have my new Studio 15 laptop, so it should be powerful enough to run the game not to mention I have DX11. And of course, being ONLY Capture the Flag bores me, so that's how my interest in BF goes down, and it's killed completely with the lack of PC version for the BBC1. And yes, I read the news about BF3, so I need to confirm about this that has a full length campaign.
Let's hope that it's way better than MoH or even CoD itself.'
PS : Yo, are you typing really really fast? Your spelling is quite off, especially you type "counsel" instead of "console", and then "sails" instead of "sales".
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Post by Clone on Apr 15, 2011 12:05:39 GMT -5
i was typing that after being up for more than 24 hours and spellchecker wont catch correctly spelled but misused words... also was typing that up on the quick side...
um... well for MOH it sold best on counsels, COD all ways dose (that's why they don't give a parc about the PC version). other than BBC DICE never really codes for counsels so giving figures would be on the pointless side however just expect the 360 version to all ways out sell any other platform.
yep, people like you and i that have DX11 build hardware will be able to run the game the best! and in theory it will run faster too because of the lower over head of DX11.
as of to game play types, i'm suspecting that there will be team death-matches and such, considering that they are developing a version of the game for counsels where people have no patience for anything tactical. also the full length campaign's been confirmed for some time by the studio. (after all its the only way they can market it to counsel players)
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Apr 15, 2011 15:11:49 GMT -5
Ahh yes, the infamous COD being very dishonest to PC versions. Is the PC version more hard to program and debug than the console version? Or was it console versions no need to do a lot of patching and that's why they save money and time, in the end, that's where their dishonesty comes from.
And true, even a higher end card like you said the ATI 4600 or 4800 series is better than my 5470 card, but as usual, my laptop version still will possess only 50% of the firepower and not to mention even the higher end versions of those 4000 series still possess only DX10.
Anyway, the full length campaign let's hope it'll be a good addition in order to compete with the other FPS, MoH's reboot did stand out well despite COD's dishonesty on the PC versions.
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Post by Clone on Apr 15, 2011 19:24:25 GMT -5
the benefit of DX11 run time can be felt with even a DX10 GPU, however DX11 based features will not be usable on a DX10 GPU. most DX10 and DX11 games were original coded in DX9 and then ported to the higher DX. because of that it retains the over head of DX9 thus negating the benefits of the simpler structure of DX10 and 11.
PC's are a little trickier to program for because of there vast variations however COD is just plane disappointing in there coding management.
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Apr 16, 2011 1:49:06 GMT -5
I know, that's why I still experience some lagging problems a little bit in Black Ops, and the worst of all is Modern Warfare 2, wish the game is still great without all that crashing though. Black Ops makes me nauseating for too long and let's not forget the 2nd final mission where the mission gets stuck unless you change the resolution to 800x600.
And well, poor management means it's all in the name of money. But don't forget that their deadline for each game is one year, and do you think that one year is good? Well, to me is just rushing and therefore failing quality. That's how EA released each of the C&C games, each game took lesser and lesser development time, until one chief programmer quits because of the tight deadlines. Blizzard is a lot better in terms of management since they don't have money-greedy execs to control them.
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Post by Clone on Apr 17, 2011 11:05:21 GMT -5
while we only know about the game from E3 to there launch in half a year the games were actually under development from the time that the previous one form that studio finished. for example Infinity ward is releasing a new COD this year that's been in the works sense CODMW2 launched. however 2 years is still way to short of a development period. (this can result in a lot of bugs and not much after launch support)
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Apr 17, 2011 19:42:45 GMT -5
Honestly, 2 years still sound reasonable compare to games that are built in only 1 year, each CoD game still have lots of bugs. Left 4 Dead 2's 1 year development may not have lots of bugs but they have lots of poor researches (like the characters) & construction (Particularly the sound and music) which leads to the boycott. Even "Command & Conquer 4" also took much lesser time to finish, I can't recall how long they made, but I guess it could be a year or less, and the worse of all is their EALA executives are controlling them (No project manager this time can lead the team, only the execs are).
And we know easily that the CoD developers only want this for the money and people are still investing in that franchise, with BF3 coming in, it's going to be a really huge competition. MoH 2010 may have failed to beat Black Ops, but let's see if BF3 can fight back.
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Post by Clone on Apr 18, 2011 3:08:02 GMT -5
just watched the game play footage that DICE released, all i can say is, WOW... am i glad i'm a PC gamer! There's no way this would ever run on current gen counsels!
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Apr 18, 2011 16:03:21 GMT -5
Wow, that's awesome, it's just like CoD! And oh dear, the "F" word? I hope they also have a censor system too so that younger audiences can enjoy it too without over-exposing themselves to such sins. The GTA games is the most violent and sinful of all, (that's the reason why I dislike it so much due to my disciplined religious nature). Let's hope DICE do the same just like Infinity Wards did with Black Ops, saying the "F" word is probably the most offensive thing I ever heard more than any other swear words since the "b-itch" word. And something like that is just too much, even with Teen rating. Anyway, the bonus part as I remembered is I get to drive tanks. ;D And again, it still remembers my old weakness, I'm not good at piloting planes, I only know how to shoot its missiles.
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Post by Clone on Apr 18, 2011 22:51:15 GMT -5
now by no means do i want to trample on others beliefs, however the f word in a M game is nothing and form watching the footage i'm assuming that the ESRB will give it such a rating. because of that i don't feel that DICE is obligated to change there game. also i've heard more swearing from kids than i do from any other groups. (*also your "killing" people so is using a bit of foul language really that off putting?)
man do i find the GTA games fun but im with ya, to much in every direction of undesirable content.
just a question, you know the true meaning of bitch? (surprising number of people that don't)
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Apr 19, 2011 2:15:31 GMT -5
GTA is not only known for its free-to-kill and what-could-possibly-go-wrong means of murdering innocent people and cops, but when Coffee Mod came out, XXX was taken to a higher level which even led to the UN involved. I wonder if I can still remember that old news article.
Anyway, out of all the swear words, "F" is the #1 most offensive, you know. So the ESRB should be kept in close watch. Not to say I don't like to use that word, I did swear too, except I'm a disciplined person, I usually keep the listening of that word as minimum as possible, I don't want to feed myself with too much sin.
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Post by Clone on Apr 19, 2011 13:16:21 GMT -5
oh ya, that was a bloody mess when that mod came out...
well as of for B3 if they get the M rating instead of T then there free to do just about anything. im suspecting M also seeing as theres a nice splat of blood in that video also. (blood auto kicks a game from T to M) considering we only heard **** once i dont think it will be overly present like in online play where every 12 year old thinks that it makes them mature. (really wish M meant mature instead of, 10 year old Billy is playing)
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Apr 20, 2011 3:07:23 GMT -5
Oh yeah, forgot about the whole blood thing. Yeap, I bet the M rating will come in easily, not like last time when the previous games, if I'm not mistaken, B2 was T instead. Or what is R (Restricted) is used instead.
Anyway, I heard the F word a few times, luckily Black Ops also did the same, they don't use it very often though. And by the time the game comes out, I hope I'll play also means I don't have lots of headaches like I did with Black Ops, boy, the game was nauseating which I don't understand why, which I wonder if you remember my old case like this one.
Even same case for Jedi Academy, the first time I play it, it was nauseating until I finally got used to it.
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