dakata
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Post by dakata on Feb 19, 2008 8:49:29 GMT -5
(Hawhaw, sorry for the *channer word. Couldn't fit everything in the subject.) "People who illegally download films and music will be cut off from the internet under new legislative proposals to be unveiled next week. (The article was made Feb 12th, so there'll probably be more about it by the 19th or 20th)
Internet service providers (ISPs) will be legally required to take action against users who access pirated material, The Times has learnt.
Users suspected of wrongly downloading films or music will receive a warning e-mail for the first offence, a suspension for the second infringement and the termination of their internet contract if caught a third time, under the most likely option to emerge from discussions about the new law.
Broadband companies who fail to enforce the “three-strikes” regime would be prosecuted and suspected customers’ details could be made available to the courts. The Government has yet to decide if information on offenders should be shared between ISPs.
Six million broadband users are estimated to download files illegally every year in this country in a practice that music and film companies claim is costing them billions of pounds in lost revenue annually."More hur: (It's looong) technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article3353387.eceDiscuss:- Do you agree or disagree? Why? - Do you think it'll work or not? Why? (Because as it says in the article, there's an estimated 6 million people who download this stuff, in the UK) - What do you think of torrents and stuff like that? Do you think it's a bad thing or a good thing? I think it's a stupid idea. Millions of people do it, so if some company started enforcing that, they'd lose customers. So chances are, it's not gonna work. Not all torrents are bad. There are torrents of movies, music, and software that're bad, like pirated copies of WOW or Harry Potter movies/scanned books. But some free software is distributed by torrent, and not all artists force people to pay for their music. And if I want to go start watching some show, I can't just turn the TV on, and bam, the first episode's on. And I don't wanna just go and buy a box set if I might not even like it, and waiting for a rerun of the first episode'll take waaay too long. So downloading an episode or two wouldn't hurt. (How the heck do they even get money by showing it on TV anyway?) And not all people just download movies/music, like it, and never buy a CD/DVD because they already got it for free. I have a few friends who download music, and if they like it, they buy a CD. Why buy a random CD to listen to if you might not even like it? Besides, I've listened to bands I've never even heard of by downloading the music. (Although some give the music away for free)
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Red
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Post by Red on Feb 19, 2008 18:15:56 GMT -5
I completely agree: It's madness to make some kind of filter about what is or isn't legal to download, and offically Torrents are legal, because you share only tiny fragments with other people and not the whole thing. Then there is youtube, and just about any music can be found there, and it really isn't hard to google up a program that downloads it on your PC. And finaly, some games and such arent worth the money they ask, I don't want to encourage downloading with this statment, but I can understand why people do it.
I might have downloaded some torrents from the net accidentally, but ADJL for example is hard to find on TV these days!
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feelgoodfailure
Young Warrior Dragon
NO RED MEAT! NO REFINED SUGAR!
DO A BR00TAL ROLL
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Post by feelgoodfailure on Feb 19, 2008 18:19:54 GMT -5
..... NOOOOOOO!!!!!!
*hurries to joox and movie6 to get everything i need and gtfo*
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Post by Protoss Dragon on Feb 20, 2008 22:41:50 GMT -5
But this is only for the UK and not the US or Australia
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feelgoodfailure
Young Warrior Dragon
NO RED MEAT! NO REFINED SUGAR!
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Post by feelgoodfailure on Feb 21, 2008 0:25:00 GMT -5
..... Good. Because I never hurried to those sites anyway. Now, I have no reason to.
^__^
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Red
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Post by Red on Feb 21, 2008 9:01:37 GMT -5
Poor islanders, why do they always have to do things diffrent from then continent? It's true: they drive on the left, use a different measuring system, got their own religion and invented these wack scores for tennis (15 points if you score once...)
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Feb 22, 2008 11:15:40 GMT -5
Ok, here are some comments from me, whether I'm in Malaysia or Australia or wherever. Here's the snitch or sitch :
I don't know, I'm on the scale between 45% to 55% on both agree and disagree. Although today the modern world depends on piracy including not just on films and music, but games as well.
Torrents are not all are bad, and besides, some things are nearly impossible to find or buy, so people wants to go for something free and easy, so torrent is the only thing they want to use.
Well dakata, if the law wants to catch us, they have to catch more than one, worse, if you catch one of them, you have to catch us just like how the Americans tried to hunt down Osama Bin Laden or the FBI trying to hunt down their wanted serial killers. And also like you said, if the broadband companies are getting jeopardies by that law, well, they'll lose customers. If the company becomes completely shut down, existing customers will protest and they need their internet back, no matter what.
Well, lawmen, do you think this law is worth it? Is it for better or for worse? Put yourself into the people's shoe and see how does it feel? You cannot be in your own law shoes all the time when you need to put on the people's shoe and see how they feel, ask yourself. Is it really worth it?
Hello, it's the modern world today, things are getting crazier and even badder when people download here and there. You have to accept the reality and there's nothing stopping them. Like terrorism, they cannot be completely wiped out or eradicated, but they can be kept under control.
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Post by The Italian Dragon on Mar 14, 2008 19:34:37 GMT -5
In italy a judgment on the Supreme Court says that's it isn't illegal to download films and softwares if you don't use it for your own profit. So if you download only for your private use in italy you can download as much as you want. In france it's different. They try to stop piracy ( the call that warez in France) at any cost but while they close a forum another opens so... An inspection report says that it's impossible to remove piracy. After all that's like driving cars. Some people drive gently and some persons try to kill the quarter mile in less than 15 seconds so ....
And yes I use tons of cracked softwares but that's just because I don't want to spend 5'000 dollars for a software that I'll use two times in a month, So...
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Post by R Ø G U € » on Mar 20, 2008 23:53:18 GMT -5
Well, lawmen, do you think this law is worth it? Is it for better or for worse? Put yourself into the people's shoe and see how does it feel? You cannot be in your own law shoes all the time when you need to put on the people's shoe and see how they feel, ask yourself. Is it really worth it? lol The "lawmen" will always say: "stop illegal downloading" because that's the morally and politically correct answer. (That's not necessarily a bad thing either.) I personally would rather support my favorite artists by buying their work. That way they can afford to record more, as well as make a living. Stealing is wrong, and the internet just makes it easier and more convenient to get away with it. Lets say mp3 downloads didn't exist. Would you go into a store and try to sneak a CD out without paying for it? I doubt you'd be bold enough to even try. Hello, it's the modern world today, things are getting crazier and even badder when people download here and there. You have to accept the reality and there's nothing stopping them. Like terrorism, they cannot be completely wiped out or eradicated, but they can be kept under control. You can't "stop" other illegal activities either, but you can certainly reduce them; sometimes significantly. I won't care one way or the other if a law like this is passed because I don't download illegal material. XD
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Mar 21, 2008 2:17:40 GMT -5
Well, ROGUE, suit yourself. But me, I have my differences, I've been using Limewire for so long as well as been cracking softwares for years. True, like I mention about terrorism, reducing & keep under control is the only thing can be done, not completely wiping it out. And in Australia, I'm limited to a specific amount of bandwidth, so I cannot surf often as well as torrenting. But in Malaysia & Singapore, the bandwidth is unlimited. All the service providers are providing the speed only (For Malaysia & Singapore) while Australia is providing both speed & higher bandwidth space.
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Post by The Italian Dragon on Jun 30, 2008 9:21:48 GMT -5
I'm not stopping downloading cuz I'm not odwnloading a lot. Sometimes a game ( around 8 GB ) but that's the only big stuff that I download. After these I download movies in 100 mb parts and musics and... ADJL eps XD . So I won't stop downloading asnd Kokusho, I use a looot of cracked stuff. The bought stuff that I have can be counted on one hand ( an Agatha Cristie Game, Echelon : Wind Warriors, Sim City 4 ,and um.... I think that's all ). So that's it. I will download forever. Long life to the downloads !
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Jun 30, 2008 12:26:30 GMT -5
Long live for piracy I'll say. But be on the lookout, bandwidth excessiveness can threaten you if you're not careful. In Singapore, if you exceed 3GB, you'll be fined $12000 (50% discount for loyal customers), worse, they don't give you warnings that you already exceeded the limit. But in Australia, the bandwidth speed gets slower like a 56k even though your subscription (Basic minimum) is a broadband, this is not a big pain but compare to Singapore's internet system, it hurts a lot unless you subscribe their maximum package which offers unlimited bandwidth, but it's still very expensive to subscribe though. Me, I still continue to do torrenting as well. Speaking of those illegal downloading, I heard some softwares called "Internet Boosters", I wonder does it increase your connection speed (And increases Australia's ISP's restricted 56k connection when bandwidth exceeded) & reduce your bandwidth usage? I saw them but don't know how to use them, I end up downloading them for nothing when I don't know how to configure or set them.
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Post by The Italian Dragon on Jul 9, 2008 8:51:16 GMT -5
Yeah, it exist. Basically it makes you download at the max speed from the servers even when you normallly can't. So you can download at 400 / 500 ko/s instead of 45/70 ko. So it's great. And for the ppl who want the monitoring of the downloads it's impossible because some DEMOS weight like 3 or 4 GB. And if the demo is badly downloaded ( yes it can happen ) you may have to download it 2 or 3 times.So basically the weight is 12 GB but you don't even downloaded ONE pirated game. So this is c**p, b******ts, s**t.
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Jul 10, 2008 4:41:29 GMT -5
So Italian, got a good "Internet Booster" software, I can't find any. Even if I crack them, I still can't be able to get it to work properly.
Can you help by providing me the cracked software & instruction manuals via PM? If you don't respond on this, I'll PM you instead.
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Post by The Italian Dragon on Jul 13, 2008 8:35:22 GMT -5
Check your PM's Kokusho. Also anonymous surfers increase the download speed because they use different servers than the others ( you can try Tor, it works good )
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