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Post by KaiDragon on Jul 29, 2007 13:45:07 GMT -5
This is a page scanned from a newspaper called the Sunday Express I picked up today (29/07/2007). This article as you can see is about the number of videos on sites such as Youtube that display children and teenagers being abused by other said age groups that have often been filmed on mobile phones. The people in charge of these websites say that they are not responsible for the removal of these videos and that they do not breach the rules. This is the point at which I will yell: "NOT BREAKING THE RULES?!? CHILDREN ARE BEING ASSAULTED AND FILMED WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW! HELLO? ARE YOU LISTENING?" Here is a copy of the article, hopefully it is large enough to read the print. Makes me ashamed of my country's law and judicial system to be honest... Link: www.wikiupload.com/download_page.php?id=188301go to the bottom of the page and click download in the yellow box. Save and view. What do you make of it?
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Post by AAcid on Jul 29, 2007 19:58:05 GMT -5
Simpler Link This is my largest issue with Youtube and its ilk. It does not, and cannot patrol what people post. Its only recourse is to fall back on users to choose what is offensive and what is not, but the vast majority of users do not have the time or patience to wade through all of Youtube's garbage clips. This is part of the reason that our generation is shown as being useless narcissistic brats who want everything catered to them and want all attention to focus on them. The remaining reason is that too many people have this tendency, but that is neither here nor there. This results in Youtube being a pit where movies are given to the lowest denominator and mob rule is paramount. I find it interesting that Youtube directly refers to Violence in its guidelines, yet can't have one staff member search for violence or similar keywords daily. In regard to the legal aspect, I expect that the police can get warrants for the posters of these videos, as well as the fact that Youtube states that it cooperates with all police authorities in matters of lawbreaking. It may be a quirky try, but there are definitely areas that can be exploited in order to get warrants and prosecute the attackers, as well as a couple in progress cases that can be strengthened.
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Post by KaiDragon on Aug 3, 2007 13:37:02 GMT -5
I've heard that people put these video's up and give them completely irrelevant keywords. They then tell people these keywords so they can look it up themselves.
I personally don't understand how someone can watch and/or film someone else being abused right in front of them and do nothing, even find it amusing. Those kind of people disgust me.
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Aug 5, 2007 21:53:56 GMT -5
Oh my goodness, that is no good, does the world gets more violent by the minute?
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Post by KaiDragon on Aug 6, 2007 14:49:41 GMT -5
Yes, it seems so. Its unfortunate that the police had to even publish posters saying it is illegal to film such violence. I've seen those posters in some infant schools...now that is worrying, since they only put them up in places where it was a problem.
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Aug 6, 2007 22:00:17 GMT -5
Violence movie is not recommended to be created due to injury, leave this to the professionals. Like WWE or TNA, you should leave the professional wrestlers to do the entertaining.
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Post by KaiDragon on Aug 7, 2007 14:15:17 GMT -5
People aren't staging this stuff. The people seen being set upon in the videos are really being hurt. Its a sick form of humour that my/our generation seem to have created, particularly in the west.
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Aug 8, 2007 4:13:42 GMT -5
Humor or not, that's just wrong, we know that. Like a Counter Strike movie, do you think you should arm the guns with real bullets? No, that's killing and murder, a simple toy gun with computer sound effects will do.
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Post by KaiDragon on Aug 15, 2007 14:47:16 GMT -5
Sadly, thats not the way some peoples mind's work...they find the real thing more amusing than virtual reality. I don't want to sound like a game slanderer (which I do right now) but many people blame violent video games. My view is that if you don't have the IQ to see the difference between game life and real life, you really shouldn't play that kind of game...
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Post by audra on Aug 31, 2007 7:18:07 GMT -5
It's times like this I'm glad to be born of the generation before video games got this realistic. When I was young, the most violent video game I ever played was 'Jaws' for the NES. I look at the commercials for video games today and find myself absolutely gobsmacked at not only the realism, but the violence. So much good could be done with that kind of realism! Why not make a game that puts you through the training of a police officer or a fireman? Put you in their shoes for once?
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Post by AAcid on Aug 31, 2007 17:21:37 GMT -5
It's times like this I'm glad to be born of the generation before video games got this realistic. When I was young, the most violent video game I ever played was 'Jaws' for the NES. I look at the commercials for video games today and find myself absolutely gobsmacked at not only the realism, but the violence. So much good could be done with that kind of realism! Why not make a game that puts you through the training of a police officer or a fireman? Put you in their shoes for once? They do try to do this, but it is really only good for the people that are already in the field. Any realistic game has more substance than an average gamer wants. Also, the biggest thing for video games is that they allow people to play act essentially, and do things that they normally wouldn't. I don't mind some violent video games, particularly if there is a purpose to the violence transcending money, points or sheer brutality e.g. SWAT series or Rainbow Six Series. In the grand scheme of things, though, video games are not the blame, but a sign of the coarsening culture.
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Post by Max Power on Aug 31, 2007 18:28:21 GMT -5
It's times like this I'm glad to be born of the generation before video games got this realistic. When I was young, the most violent video game I ever played was 'Jaws' for the NES. I look at the commercials for video games today and find myself absolutely gobsmacked at not only the realism, but the violence. So much good could be done with that kind of realism! Why not make a game that puts you through the training of a police officer or a fireman? Put you in their shoes for once? There's plenty of super-advanced simulations already put in place by the military to train new recruits or to simulate certain tactics and battle plans. Some of these have even been released commercially (America's Army series of games, "Full Spectrum Warrior" for the XBOX and PC). But really, commercial gaming is mostly for escaping reality (but there is a well-built audience for simulation gaming), which is why advanced technology is allowing for leaps and bounds in gameplay, artificial intelligence, graphics and sound. This is of course being used in some very violent, Mature-rated games, but it's also used for plenty of less violent games as well. Look at the phenomena that is the Nintendo DS and Wii. And at any rate, I wouldn't think that violent video gaming is a major catalyst in spurring violence in teenagers. If you really can't differentiate reality from fiction, you probably shouldn't be playing video games anyway.
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Post by Hero on Sept 10, 2007 5:16:32 GMT -5
I think this is funny. =)
This sort have thing has been happening for a very, very long time. Although it was not commercialized in the same fashion, it still existed none-the-less. In fact, this isn't the first time this topic has surfaced on the news. Weren't there other occurrences in the past? I think so.
Relatively, I believe that it is not our government's fault, judicial system, or anything of the sort, but rather the sick people who would want to look at this stuff and broadcast it. Both parties are equal in my opinion; viewer and recorder, per se. Personally, I have no problem with the recordings, since I don't look for the stuff in the first place. I don't think many will.
The keyword trick is also a great way to find pornography on Youtube. It works in a similar way. People are finally getting clever...
I don't think violent video games have anything to do with it either. I've played them all my life (The most terrifying video game creation to come from Japan being that feature about plumbers consuming mushrooms to battle evil, flying turtles. Horribly violent. =P) and I'm just fine.
[twitch-twitch]
Anywho.
Because this is a recurrence of a facsimilated subject, inconvtravertably this will lead to more violence and animosity as history always repeats itself.
Amen.
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Post by The Italian Dragon on Feb 6, 2008 18:43:18 GMT -5
For me guys who do that are only crazy dudes who must go to prison ( like Councilor Chang)
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