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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Oct 18, 2010 8:44:34 GMT -5
Hmm, normally ATI shouldn't be like that, but I guess you're right. But too bad today's PC market is using more on Radeon HD 5000 series, Nvidia is not always the 300 or 400 series, just 200. Macs is using the 300 series when I look at their catalog. But remember, the market is aiming on DX11, and only GPUs can do that is the HD 5000 series, Nvidia's 400 series is not that common for today yet.
And well, my Starcraft 2 is a little laggy during the interactive part which conversations can go out-of-sync. I don't know whether is it because my 5470 was not strong enough for the job even on reasonable middle settings. IF I use a 5800 series card, will it make a big difference?
Until now and don't forget, I'm sure it is my laptop, which I don't think the GPU is giving its original firepower more than the desktop version. Like I did ask, if you compare 2 graphic cards of the same model but on different platform, will there be a difference?
Laptop version of 5470 VS Desktop version of 5470, any big difference? That's what I'm asking earlier. I'm expecting to see some results about the reduction of firepower coming from the laptop version against the desktop version.
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Post by Clone on Oct 18, 2010 12:16:54 GMT -5
at least with Nvidia cards, the Laptop versions normaly just a lower clock but for its higher end ones its using a different core desighn, i think it was somthign like a 25% reduction in procesing power. but this is going off of the older Nvidia mobile GPU's and its not like im talking ATI.
as of towards your statement on DX11, i resent that. Nvidia has DX11 GPU's in all that major price points and almost all of them are faster than there ATI counter parts. the playing field has leveled, get with the times on that one (ya GPU markets move fast). (i have and still prefer ATI for mobile parts though, they just make some really good things for the laptop)
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Post by randomname123 on Oct 18, 2010 21:13:36 GMT -5
i keep hearing that this game is almost exactly modern warfare 2 multiplayer, but the campaign is horrible
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Post by Clone on Oct 19, 2010 3:20:16 GMT -5
while that's mostly truthful (cant say anything on the single player mode) the multieplayer mode felt more balanced than MWII's from when i've played MWII. so one really needs to get this game to tell us something more on it, all my info's form the betas...
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Oct 19, 2010 4:47:05 GMT -5
Ahh, I see where is it now, Nvidia's catching up and it's good news. So all I need now is to wait for the Bulldozer processor as well. Anyway, let's just hope so. Luckily I already uninstall MW2, all I need now is to wait for my pirated copy to arrive in store.
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Post by Clone on Oct 19, 2010 8:07:00 GMT -5
well i guess we will have our person to report on things for us then
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Oct 19, 2010 11:52:17 GMT -5
Not me, I got jobs to worry about first. I'll get the game when the time comes. High anticipation leads to early purchase, and early purchase leads to bad results and lost of time IF the game you bought it a bad one.
Good games will be a different story, but bad games like I saw of "C&C4 : Tiberian Twilight" already had wasted many precious money out from people's pockets. So don't rush!
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Post by The Italian Dragon on Oct 19, 2010 19:48:17 GMT -5
Well Kokusho to reply to your question the laptop video cards are quite more cstrated than desktop ones. My little bro's laptop has a HD 5870 Mobility and despite it's usually a very good card, on my bro's laptop, CoD 4 maxed out freezes often and stuff, when played on my little GT 220 1 GB it goes all smooth and on a bigger screen. About MoH I heard too that the campaign was crapbut on some other points was way better than MW2. I participated too to the Open Beta and i have to say that I liked hte global balance of the game. Reguarding hte graphics and performance it went all shuss without crashes or lags ( when MW2 tends up to have tons of these ).
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Post by Clone on Oct 19, 2010 22:46:58 GMT -5
you may want to try cleaning your brothers laptop and getting some good ventilation, most GPU based crashes come for pour ventilation. (i really should find a way to clean my laptop, its getting so slow...)
(don't mean to nag but my experience says Nvidia's crash less...)
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Oct 20, 2010 1:54:16 GMT -5
Since you all are rich enough, try using liquid cooling. But since laptops can't utilize that, I doubt about it. Although today I'm not sure if laptop liquid cooling is possible, mine is still using the same fan & heatsink. Anyway, with Nvidia getting better in performance, I'm starting to buy the idea. But as for the MoH game's campaign, if you say is crap, I fear I may not want to buy it after all. I wish I could but I rather not, I have many debts (Which I owe myself) in my hands and cannot spend on another not to mention my income is not much to cover them.
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Post by The Italian Dragon on Oct 20, 2010 11:48:31 GMT -5
Water cooling is really efficient but it has one big inconvenient : it's expansicve and if you change just 1 part you have to get hte right adaptator so it is cooled properly >.>
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Post by Clone on Oct 20, 2010 17:39:25 GMT -5
not to mention its dangerous, if you run low or spring a leak everythign goes up in flames...
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Post by The Italian Dragon on Oct 20, 2010 21:14:56 GMT -5
Yes there's also this risk. That's why I prefer to rely on high end fnas than getting water cooling. I love my PC way to much, and it has way too much data in to risk it seeing brust into a ball of flames >.>
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Oct 21, 2010 4:37:00 GMT -5
I also remember that I'm trying to get high-end fans for my laptop, but laptop fans cannot be upgraded, the factories have specific specs to follow and cannot do further modifications. I asked my Dell friend before I used my current Studio 15, and he said it's true. Desktops can do that but it's useless to me when I'm a laptop user. Same case I tried for cooling pads too, except most of them are just performing the same function but only different designs, they're not some with special upgrades like spins faster than regular ones or even come out cooler air like those from air conditioners. These kind of upgrades are just nonsense or just dreams, so I doubt about getting better cooling pads.
So mine's a dead end, folks. For you desktop users, you should have no problem, and well, you have your opinions on the pros and cons of cooling liquids. All I know is that cooling liquids are expensive, but cheaper than those of Mac platforms.
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Post by Clone on Oct 21, 2010 15:55:53 GMT -5
Lokusho, try out this program linkits a fan control program and it may be able to control your fans (its supports a good number of DeLL's) so if you are willing to try, set the fans to 90% and running a game and see if that makes a difference in crashes. back on to MOH... more bad reviews for the single player, most are giving the game a 7.X/10 because of the single player while siting that the multieplayer's on par with CODM2 but better balanced and less buggy.
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