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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Nov 22, 2010 15:33:49 GMT -5
Actually no, what the Donald will do is he'll keep the local US product prices smaller while the Chinese (Which I think it's the only foreign country's imported goods including windows & toys, etc..) ones get to pay the higher taxes.
But most of all, do you watch the videos I just provided, they are really useful? My point might have something even though I don't live in the US, but even if I were there, if the Donald is our pres, I can think local American goods will decrease its price and back to the way it was supposed to be while the Chinese-imported goods will be quite high. If I were an employer, I can finally provide jobs for the locals and no need to move out from the US. US companies like Maytag moved to Mexico, remember?
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Post by Clone on Nov 22, 2010 16:22:38 GMT -5
well seeing as you might not know about why our domestic goods are higher, i will inform you. its called Minimum wage, something that China lacks. here in the states the minim wage is around 7.50$ per hour of work. in China the average wage is 5 cents per hour. theres our problem, how do we compete with a country where its cost of living is less than an American dollar?
also sadly getting large terifs will not occur either, China owns way to much of America to let that just happen. not to mention how much the political policy makers are being payed by big businesses' they wouldn't even dream of doing it... i still want those terifs though. we could impeach everyone who is miss representing there people.
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Post by SoCalDrag on Nov 22, 2010 19:25:48 GMT -5
Yes. It is true that developed countries may not be able to compete with the low wages of developing and underdeveloped nations. That is just the way free markets work. And from my previous posts by me and others, since we have concluded that tariffs are not ideal, there is only one way to get a country to export well... stuff. A country needs to have a monopoly or be engaged in an oligopoly in one item or product. Like Sweden, they have IKEA, correct? Nobody else can make it. Or even better, computers. In the 1980s and 90s, the US was a monopoly in the computer industry. Everybody HAD to buy computers from the United States.
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Post by Clone on Nov 23, 2010 23:17:57 GMT -5
sadly China's taken the computer industry form the manufacturing stand point, at least the USA still designs a good portion of the programs that work them. (sadly India's starting to take up a decent sum of the programing work force)
well lets look at it like this, if America were to seclude its self some, which is what occurring, then once the developing nations hit our stage as a first world country then we can compete again because of how similar the wadges will be. China's workers are starting to form unions and are demanding higher pay, its only a matter of time till there price to works similar to ours. (that is as long as China's communistic government doesn't do something to curb the people)
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Post by SoCalDrag on Nov 23, 2010 23:26:47 GMT -5
The idea you have, clone, might actually be feasible. But in China, it is illegal for citizens to protest or stage strikes (w/ the exception of HK, Macau, and Taiwan). The Communist Party of China will do anything to keep itself as the world's major exporter.
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Nov 25, 2010 5:14:26 GMT -5
Regarding in America, as Obama now only tells the money factories to print out more billions of dollars, I still say it only generates more funds (which it won't close down any existing increasing debts) but not jobs.
Like the Donald said, China is only ripping America off, ripping the bloodline out of it. China may deny that, it's just America doesn't know what they are doing to keep its own economy alive.
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Post by Atecom on Nov 25, 2010 10:08:19 GMT -5
Regarding in America, as Obama now only tells the money factories to print out more billions of dollars, I still say it only generates more funds (which it won't close down any existing increasing debts) but not jobs. Like the Donald said, China is only ripping America off, ripping the bloodline out of it. China may deny that, it's just America doesn't know what they are doing to keep its own economy alive. You are looking at 2 different things here, sure in terms of exports and exported labour, China is ripping America off, yet at the same time, they are losing a ton of money trying to keep the American dollar from collapsing (and helping the US currency). True, they have their own motives for this, but its not as black and white as China just plain ripping America off.
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Nov 25, 2010 23:45:12 GMT -5
I hope you also watched the videos I provide of why the Donald wants to be president. He thought about that because he can't believe his own beloved country is in so much trouble and Obama is not fixing them properly. That's why he puts the campaign and thinking of fixing the problems himself rather than letting others who don't know how to fix them.
Here's what the Donald has in mind if I were him, "If somebody wants to do it right, you got to do it yourself."
I don't know about you, but when 2012 comes, you'll decide who will be president next, I'm sure Obama will not be in his 2nd term, but I hope the Donald will be and I'm putting a little money on him. McCain might be nice but I don't know if he can fix the economy, as for Hillary, no chance at all since she is treated so harshly by many of us.
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Post by Clone on Nov 29, 2010 1:35:11 GMT -5
speaking of McCain, i'm pretty sour hes not going to run again. hes going to be REALLY old by 2012 and sadly the republican party's only option currently is Sarah Palin so its not like the dems even have any competition right now...
now back to topic... an open market economy works best when everyone's on equal grounds. an open market collapses when a socialistic state is allowed in. why? because of the forced labor rates are so low that no one else can compeat. the good news hoever is that China's been having to modernize and its people are forming labor unions now so we may see that black hole of workers finally start to dry up as there wages get higher.
but in a bad twist on things, then all the jobs may run out to Africa. (possibly the next cheapest place to produce goods) however this if it ever occurs will take years. probably around 10 to 20 years if the movement in china manages to move as fast as it did in America. (highly unlikely)
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Nov 29, 2010 1:42:41 GMT -5
Run out to Africa is one of the ways, to India is another.
But overall, if only the world possess ONLY one currency, will it stabilize everything? But sadly, I don't think so, every country only wants a face for itself. In this case, they'll never accept a one currency policy, think of 1 Earth Dollar against an alien currency like 5 Mars Dollars. No such thing but just something a little wacky.
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Post by SoCalDrag on Nov 30, 2010 3:22:13 GMT -5
One world currency will not work. However, combining currencies usually has a big effect... it raises the value of the currency. Ex, the Euro. There was a conspiracy a few years ago to make a new currency known as the Amero, to be used in Canada, US, and Mexico.
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Post by Clone on Nov 30, 2010 3:32:01 GMT -5
one world currency wouldn't help much with the cost of living differences. even in America the American dollar's worth more or less depending on where you are.
however if we ever do come in contact economically with another race not of this planet then we may need to get a single unified currency.
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Post by SoCalDrag on Nov 30, 2010 20:33:15 GMT -5
Yes, and a problem with unified currencies is that if one region goes bankrupt (Example, Greece and the European Union) the entire currency gets dragged down with it. But together, it is a stronger economic force...
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Post by Atecom on Dec 1, 2010 1:32:55 GMT -5
As in there was a proposal and a some backing politicians and some discussion of it. Not really a conspiracy.
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Post by cutechikye10 on Dec 1, 2010 1:34:13 GMT -5
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