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Post by The Italian Dragon on Dec 15, 2010 22:37:50 GMT -5
I agre with you guys. Religion is OK, but too much is too much. I'm not particularilòy racist but those guys who are spreading everywhere should have their a** kicked back to their homeland.
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Post by SoCalDrag on Dec 16, 2010 1:30:50 GMT -5
The worst part is that these Islamic Radicals are using terrorism to get their point across, and nobody sees anything wrong with the religion or their ideals. These guys are just looking for a fight, and they have and will get it.
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Post by The Italian Dragon on Dec 16, 2010 19:53:55 GMT -5
Agreed. In Italy even if there's a ton of them they've learned to shut up ( thanks mafia ). A couple of these tried to make their law but police found their corpses in the rivers full o' bullet holes, so they learned to lower their head andshut up >:3 Sadly it's not like this in all the countries. In France they tend up to be way more infulent and spreaded than Italy
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Dec 17, 2010 1:34:17 GMT -5
You know what they say, without sin, life will be boring. Imagine you don't get to swear, or lie or even having to bone a girl, life will be just grey and dull.
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Post by The Italian Dragon on Dec 17, 2010 22:47:03 GMT -5
^ Agreed. What woould be life without some lust... I guess it would be waaaay more boring .
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Post by SoCalDrag on Dec 18, 2010 1:45:01 GMT -5
I can't exactly agree to you guys on this topic this time... I'm not exactly sure if society really wants the Mafia to keep order. And how did we even get on the topic of lust?
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Dec 18, 2010 3:36:13 GMT -5
My point previously was, without sin, life will be really boring. Lust is one of them, and for the criminals, having lots of money is enjoyable too, not to mention it's luxurious.
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Post by Clone on Dec 18, 2010 10:40:23 GMT -5
while i will agree that a perfect life is boring. i still believe that a society closer to perfection is needed than where we are now.
now i must mention Kokusho, i don't think lust is a driving force for the terrorists. there religious radicals, they will live off of nothing and want to kill them selves if it means that some made up man in the sky is happy. if they in any form had lust in them then they would look a lot more like the Mafia instead of bumbling sand people.
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Dec 18, 2010 16:43:20 GMT -5
I'm sure you also remember the time when people are used to loyal with Pablo Escobar before, he has a luxurious life, even his so called "prison" was a luxurious house with pool tables. He really has a lot to bring himself in, until his reputation became so bad, he has little to defend himself. Yeap, you look at him, schools were honoring him, bla bla bla, the good times for him before his own men actually killed civilians.
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Post by Atecom on Dec 19, 2010 4:22:17 GMT -5
Its not Islam itself thats the problem, many people that follow the Islamic faith do choose to see it as a religion of peace, in fact most do. Unfortunately the radicals get most of the screen time. Those that believe the bible does not advocate the killing of people from other cultures or at the very least considers it acceptable if needs be, really need to reread the old testament. Both the Qu'ran and Bible at some point or another advocates it. The difference is how our audience reacts to the bible, in general there are a lot less christians who choose to follow the killing and violence path of the bible than there are Muslem people that choose to follow the negative aspects of their faith. Unfortunately the culture of the middle eastern region has a lot to do with that, and thats where people should choose to focus, not the religion itself.
I should also point out that Australian governmental institutions are a ton more secular than the US Governmental institutions, so for America to take Australia policy on the issue, they would actually have to have less influence from Christianity and do things such as remove In God we trust from their money.
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Post by Clone on Dec 19, 2010 13:05:11 GMT -5
i really should re-read the old testament, been some 10 years... and everyone seem to like to bring it up when ever this kind of debate shows up. (Christianity's primarily based of of the new testament while Judaisms based solely off of the old testament, so should we bring up them too? just wondering)
i was trying to not point the problem on all of Islam just the radicals... what i was getting after though is a religion will live on for as long as theres some one willing to follow it and that's a bit of the problem the governments are having with squelching the terrorist problem.
to the "in God we trust" and "under God". its a remnant form WWII that was used as apart of governments campaign against the Japanese. we played up the Japanese as sacrilegious and barbaric monkeys. it served its purpose but has for some reason held its ground against a number of attempts to remove it just like a lot of stuff that went in to place in the 1920-30's. probably the main reason why they haven't changed it is because the generations that grew up directly in contact with those times were sill around. but because there disappearing now, theres going to be a lot of change soon in the United States relating to policy's and social services.
if it makes you feel any different, the pledge of elegance is now outlawed in the public school system. (also anything in relation to religion's punishable)
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Post by Atecom on Dec 19, 2010 19:15:56 GMT -5
if it makes you feel any different, the pledge of elegance is now outlawed in the public school system. (also anything in relation to religion's punishable) I feel that it shouldn't be outlawed, but shouldn't be forced upon students either, for example maybe a certain teacher should be allowed to hold a prayer session 5 mins before class starts, but forcing the entire class in prayer should not be allowed.
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Post by Clone on Dec 20, 2010 0:08:27 GMT -5
a teacher in my old high school was fired because she participated in a prayer with a few students before class. they were praying for a recently deceased friend of mine that died the day before. this is the kind of BS that keeps on happening every time the debate on the GOD part of our government shows up...
to make the ideocracy even more insane, theres a prayer group that forms out front of the school every Monday before class start.
theres a lot of other dumb as all hell things that ocure in the American public school system that would take to long to go over... (like a teacher getting fired that stood up against a bullying case in her class room!)
either which way, currently every step forwards been accompanied by two steps back.
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Post by SoCalDrag on Dec 20, 2010 4:14:23 GMT -5
Agreed. If America, or any other free country with a constitution which protects the rights of its citizens, abuses people who share their religion with others, then there is not point in having a bill of rights in the first place!!!
Nevertheless, people need to be considerate, yet know the basic, fundamental difference between RIGHT and WRONG.
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Post by Clone on Dec 20, 2010 9:40:10 GMT -5
people need to be considerate, yet know the basic, fundamental difference between RIGHT and WRONG. well we just tossed out 90% of America...
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