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Post by huntsrose on Aug 2, 2007 16:42:57 GMT -5
I've added lots of things up since the Academy. Sara and Kara said their visions always come true. Then in the Academy, Sara told Jake about her vision. "I see a circle of skulls, magical creatures crying in agony"... etc. That never happened. There was a circle of skulls, but nothing really happened. Does that mean that their visions in fact don't always come true? The only thing I could think is that it happens in Hong Kong Longs, but I doubt that because the Huntsman is gone, and 88 and 89 are too brainless to do it, and the Dark Dragon wouldn't be stupid enough to do it. Plus the skulls are gone.
Maybe there are other skulls? I don't know. I just think it's odd. And by the way, what will happen to 88 and 89 anyway? Actually, there are a lot of errors in this show. I've read all the spoilers for Hong Kong Longs and saw the pictures, and as far as I know, Rose doesn't have a sister. But if Rose wasn't taken by the Huntsclan, maybe it was reversed, and her sister did instead?
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Post by redemption on Aug 2, 2007 17:08:50 GMT -5
Well... wasn't Trixie pretty determined to prove that Sara and Kara can be wrong? I mean, they aren't perfect. They might claim their visions are always right, but that might just be because none have been proven wrong yet. So, first time for everything.
And the Huntsclan was destroyed when Rose made her wish. So chances are her sister's somewhere in the background.
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Post by nyc2dragon on Aug 3, 2007 13:34:14 GMT -5
Well maybe it is like what Aunt Wu said on Avatar, about having power to change your own destiny.
If they didn't stop the Huntsclan, than that vision would have come true.
Which one is Kara, and which one is Sara?
I thought Kara was the one who saw bad things and was very perky, while Sara was the goth one who saw good thing,
In "Being Human", the year book had a picture of the girl that saw bad things, and under her picture said S. Oracle, standing for Sara obviously. Did I get them confused? Did the writers decide to switch names?
That is not included the fact to my knowledge they don't go to Jake's school. Though I thought in season 2, they should have been enrolled to Jake's school, so they can tell Jake important messages as soon as possible. The school alreday had a wizard and until recently a siren, I think there is room for a couple of more magicals. Why not.
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Post by huntsgirls1fan on Aug 3, 2007 14:16:11 GMT -5
I've added lots of things up since the Academy. Sara and Kara said their visions always come true. Then in the Academy, Sara told Jake about her vision. "I see a circle of skulls, magical creatures crying in agony"... etc. That never happened. There was a circle of skulls, but nothing really happened. Does that mean that their visions in fact don't always come true? The only thing I could think is that it happens in Hong Kong Longs, but I doubt that because the Huntsman is gone, and 88 and 89 are too brainless to do it, and the Dark Dragon wouldn't be stupid enough to do it. Plus the skulls are gone. Maybe there are other skulls? I don't know. I just think it's odd. And by the way, what will happen to 88 and 89 anyway? Actually, there are a lot of errors in this show. I've read all the spoilers for Hong Kong Longs and saw the pictures, and as far as I know, Rose doesn't have a sister. But if Rose wasn't taken by the Huntsclan, maybe it was reversed, and her sister did instead? I was wondering about that! I was like...but there visions always come true?? Maybe not.
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Post by Max Power on Aug 3, 2007 15:55:38 GMT -5
I don't know why people are so obsessed over Rose's twin sister. The focus really has just been more about Rose's parents about anything else; the producers said this themselves. The general rule of thumb for why shows don't bring back characters is because they're not imperative to the plot, which is probably the case for Rose's sister. And, really, if she was present in any scenes where it'd be appropriate, she'd just be sitting with her parents in that video feed or in the car in "Homecoming", or standing next to them in their home in "Hong Kong Longs". Though still, it's a bit perplexing why she's shown to have a twin sister in her subconscious memory and then she's never seen; maybe Jake's time-altering wish affected something, or maybe scenes with the sister were cut for time. Who knows.
And at any rate, I'd like to point out how it's been mentioned before that the Oracle Twins have 100% accurate psychic visions, but they don't always turn out the way you'd expect.
Look at an example in "Body Guard Duty", where Sara predicts Spud will spill a whole bunch of milk, so he thinks of course it's because them being in the cafeteria eating lunch, which of course has him drinking milk. He leaves the cafeteria and goes outside of the school, and where there is supposedly no milk. But just as he thinks he's safe, he accidentally causes a truck that carried a tank full of milk to crash, and have the milk spill out all across the street. Of course, it wasn't a conventional way of "spilling milk", but milk was spilled, as predicted.
This same logic can be applied to the events of "Homecoming" (although somewhat loosely). Sara predicted "magical creatures crying in agony", which you could conclude as meaning the skulls are activated and are being used to kill things. And you could also truncate the prediction to "creatures crying in agony".
This would then fit with what happens: Rose double-crosses the Huntsman and changes the end of his wish of having the destruction of magical creatures to everyone in the Huntsclan. Notice that when all of the Huntsclan members are being lifted up into the air, they are stuggling and crying out...in agony!
So obviously, there's some leeway to exactly HOW the predictions come to pass. Otherwise, Sara would have said, "Spud is going to crash a milk-truck and cause all the milk to spill out onto the street!" They don't always get specific details to their predictions, thus why they don't always turn out exactly the way you think. They predicted, essentially, that the skulls would be activated and that a group of beings would be killed (hence the "crying in agony"). Of course, the "group" ended up being the Huntsclan rather than all magical creatures.
This is all just a theory from a fan, though. If you feel it's not adequate in helping with your complaint about the plot, then you're not obligated to regard it as a true answer whatsoever.
Edit -- To answer nyc2dragon, Sara is the perky girl who sees bad things, and Kara is the depressed and cynical girl who sees good things.
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Post by huntsgirls1fan on Aug 3, 2007 15:59:35 GMT -5
yeah i though about that to, Maybe Jake was the only magical creature crieing.
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Post by huntsrose on Aug 5, 2007 19:55:13 GMT -5
Somehow what Max Power said actually made sense to me. XD
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Post by redemption on Aug 6, 2007 7:55:11 GMT -5
He does that a lot. XD
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Post by lightningbugx on Aug 9, 2007 17:56:31 GMT -5
The magical creatures crying in agony... Of course it did not happen. The Aztec Skulls display a power stronger than the Oracle Sisters can foretell.
Prophecies has a few issues. First of which, who will know the prophecy? Second, how will the ones who know the prophecy respond?
But my ultimate answer here is, "Some magical items are so powerful that even fate can be changed."
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Post by Kukolea on Aug 14, 2007 11:33:08 GMT -5
This same logic can be applied to the events of "Homecoming" (although somewhat loosely). Sara predicted "magical creatures crying in agony", which you could conclude as meaning the skulls are activated and are being used to kill things. And you could also truncate the prediction to "creatures crying in agony". This would then fit with what happens: Rose double-crosses the Huntsman and changes the end of his wish of having the destruction of magical creatures to everyone in the Huntsclan. Notice that when all of the Huntsclan members are being lifted up into the air, they are stuggling and crying out... in agony! Maybe... but the Huntsclan aren't really creatures, if you know what I mean.
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Post by Max Power on Aug 14, 2007 12:35:26 GMT -5
Maybe... but the Huntsclan aren't creatures. What exactly doesn't qualify them as creatures? They're humans. "Creature" is defined as "something created" or "a living being; an animal". Scientifically speaking, a human is no more or less of a creature than a dog, a bird, a fish, or -- in the manner of this show -- a dragon.
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Post by redemption on Aug 14, 2007 15:06:59 GMT -5
I have to go with Max on this one. Humans are creatures just like everything else on the planet. It doesn't matter that our intelligence has expanded beyond that of a normal creature, but we're still animals, no matter how smart we've become or how much we've evolved.
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Post by Kukolea on Aug 15, 2007 3:02:47 GMT -5
I know, but it's not really a word used to describe humans... I mean, how often do you actually hear someone call a human a "creature"? It just sounds... odd. And I don't need a lesson, thank you very much. -_-
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Post by redemption on Aug 15, 2007 9:48:00 GMT -5
It doesn't change the fact that humans are still creatures, "odd" as it sounds. -__-
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Post by Kukolea on Aug 15, 2007 11:25:06 GMT -5
I didn't say that, now did I? =P I just don't think that word would be used in this particular case.
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