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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Jul 13, 2010 12:25:57 GMT -5
Hey, what about me? Despite I'm restricted to only laptops but I should join in the fun too. If you think you're the only one wants to max things out. Try Starcraft 2 instead, the graphic is so intense which I'm sure it's going to be awesome to see. My current Lego Harry Potter game must kept at low setting and at lower resolution so I can reduce the chances of crashing. But anyway, the Studio 15 I'll own is not only HD 5470, there is a "bad" news, after Dell upgraded the RAM from a 4GB DDR3, they're now 6GB DDR3 as a minimum and no longer 4GB, a shocker to me until I was forced to spend several hundreds to make it 8GB DDR3, we already know if our RAM cards are both not the same (2+4), it won't perform correctly as though like your computer (Maybe only the RAM) is just another machine instead of being your smart companion.
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Post by The Italian Dragon on Jul 13, 2010 19:34:26 GMT -5
Yup you'll be able to play quite a lot of games with the max settings ^^ We should all play Crysis lol And well these kinds of changes happen sometimes. IDK the change between RM and euros but I'm sure it's not at all the same price >.>
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Post by Clone on Jul 13, 2010 22:21:49 GMT -5
well that's a bummer, however if you are stuck with non paired RAM it wont make a huge difference for ya. (i'm still amassed at how fasted non paired DDR3 is!)
well considering all of you have a better processor than me you should all be in a better position for maximum frames. the GTX470 has confirmed that my CPU is showing its age, my max and average frame rates have hardly changed, however i have so much GPU left over i can turn on game crippling post processing that still runs at my maximum CPU render rate!!!
by the way, dont expect Star Craft to run smoothly on MAX but it should run on max (ive noticed its a vary scalable game so it shouldn't be as much of a hog as Crysis 2 will be). also your better processor will help greatly seeing as the games an RTS its more processor bound than your average FPS.
(this stinks, im all ready thinking about the glory of a faster processor or a new MOBO and processor... i've got 3 years before i can do any more changes though...)
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Jul 14, 2010 6:01:54 GMT -5
After I discuss this matter with a much smarter computer enthusiast, he told me the metaphor of the 2 highways going to the same direction but one is slower and the other is faster. So the performance like that is inconsistent, therefore, it's recommended that both RAM cards must be the same. Anyway, Starcraft 2 do get super intense and usually on a gaming desktop like Alienware or Voodoo is a smooth ride, but to a lower end desktop or possibly a one-step-closer-to-gaming laptop (Like my Dell Studio 15), gaming speed rate might be slower when everything is maxed AND if you play in a very high resolution. Usually smaller resolution will keep the lagging at bay, but I rather play in big resolution as I see how clear & detailed it is, yeap, saw the actions of Modern Warfare 2 at my friend's house when it's so crisp and clear on his HD monitor when he played the game on full high res.
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Post by The Italian Dragon on Jul 14, 2010 21:42:24 GMT -5
That's good Kokusho C: And Clone what processor do you have ?
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Jul 15, 2010 4:49:00 GMT -5
I'm sure you already know my processor model. But still, my technician friend told me that games usually ask for performance more from your graphic card, here's how I calculate :
Graphic card (From all kinds, both dedicated and integrated) - 85% Processor (Might be any model from Core2 all the way to i7) - 5% RAM (Either DDR2 or DDR3) - 10%
Hopefully I'm correct as graphic card has memories or RAMs of their own.
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Post by The Italian Dragon on Jul 16, 2010 9:10:20 GMT -5
Well thanks for the info Kokusho and yus I do still remember your processor model
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Jul 16, 2010 9:11:48 GMT -5
I remember you already knew my model, except I wonder if my calculations above are correct based on the requirements when you game.
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Post by The Italian Dragon on Jul 16, 2010 10:10:21 GMT -5
Well I think that RAM has a higher percentage as a friend tried to play Crysis with his crossifre 9600 GT and it was lagging horribly because he had only 2 GB's of RAM when I can play it in Medium settings in Dx10 with my tiny GT 220 but I have 4 GB's of RAM in DDR3 1333 Mhz
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Jul 16, 2010 12:25:41 GMT -5
Hmm, that's odd, I know you must have some reasonable amount of RAM, otherwise it'll lag. But normally the graphic card should take up more resources than the local RAM. After all, I did say the graphic card has memories or RAMs of their own. When I played Left 4 Dead 2, it doesn't work well as it needs a more powerful graphic card, it can't rely on my local RAM to run (That will be OpenGL I think) though, even if I did give very plenty of virtual memory.
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Post by Clone on Jul 18, 2010 23:00:08 GMT -5
Well I think that RAM has a higher percentage as a friend tried to play Crysis with his crossifre 9600 GT and it was lagging horribly because he had only 2 GB's of RAM when I can play it in Medium settings in Dx10 with my tiny GT 220 but I have 4 GB's of RAM in DDR3 1333 Mhz yep, you just discovered the power of a better processor and a nice portion of RAM. Hmm, When I played Left 4 Dead 2, it doesn't work well as it needs a more powerful graphic card, it can't rely on my local RAM to run (That will be OpenGL I think) though, even if I did give very plenty of virtual memory. L4D (I.E. the Source Engine) is written in the DX code base. OpenGL is like DX but is free and open source and functions on Unix based OS's where DX is not licensed to run on Unix based OS's. now the source games running on Apples are actually running OpenGL but all PC versions are using DX here's how I calculate : Graphic card (From all kinds, both dedicated and integrated) - 85% Processor (Might be any model from Core2 all the way to i7) - 5% RAM (Either DDR2 or DDR3) - 10% Hopefully I'm correct as graphic card has memories or RAMs of their own. oh how i wish that was so! for then i wouldn't be having my current delema! GPU accounts for approximately 50% of the performance in my testing, RAM accounts for 15% and CPU accounts for the left over 25%. the numbers are actually more heavily ladyed towards CPU and RAM for lower end systems than it is for higher end ones running at higher resolutions. i can back these up with performance numbers from my spare PC if you would like. (this will have to wait till im back though) That's good Kokusho C: And Clone what processor do you have ? i have a Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 clocked at 2.4GHz sunk in to a HP motherboard. (so sadly i cant over clock at all...)
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Jul 19, 2010 4:28:52 GMT -5
The numbers you show would be interested to see, it's all in the name of computer science (Average Joe level).
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Post by Clone on Jul 27, 2010 14:50:07 GMT -5
ok now that im back i can get set up for it (ive just got to run a reformat on the DeLL before doing them. (may take a long time seeing as ive got a lot of other stuff)
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Post by Kokusho the Evening Star on Jul 28, 2010 6:50:27 GMT -5
I understand. And by the way, Clone, did you get the PM I sent to you?
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Post by Clone on Jul 28, 2010 12:49:27 GMT -5
ya my parents were the last ones using it and they love AOL for some reason and in my testing AOL messes up computers pretty well...
i did get your PM and ive responded, hopefully those files will work for you.
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